Comments on: The Apostolic Grace, part two http://douglasweaver.net/2009/11/the-apostolic-grace-part-two/ Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:46:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: douglas http://douglasweaver.net/2009/11/the-apostolic-grace-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-117 douglas Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:24:29 +0000 http://douglasweaver.net/?p=626#comment-117 Well put brother! I love your statement, "One Foundation ~ Many Buildings." How unfortunate it is that many have laid a surrogate foundation upon which to build. It's as though some have laid a different foundation on top of the one true foundation, which is Christ, and then set about to build. But as we have seen, if the structures we build are not anchored solely to the true foundation then not only are they worthless and unfit to dwell in, they will not remain since they are not directly grounded to Him. What I have seen is that so many of these false foundations have been built that many believers' are built upon something other than the direct foundation of Christ. Now then we must break up what they have percieved as their foundation to expose the true foundation so that they can begin to build again. For instance, there are some who hold that tithing is foundational to salvation. This of course is error, but it has become so ingrained in the fabric of thier theology that the removal of this error nearly shipwrecks their faith. It is like this with so many errors. Oh how this is a day of Nehemiah's and Ezra's, and how faithful we must be to rebuild upon the one true foundation whichch as you have said so well, is Christ! Well put brother! I love your statement, “One Foundation ~ Many Buildings.” How unfortunate it is that many have laid a surrogate foundation upon which to build. It’s as though some have laid a different foundation on top of the one true foundation, which is Christ, and then set about to build. But as we have seen, if the structures we build are not anchored solely to the true foundation then not only are they worthless and unfit to dwell in, they will not remain since they are not directly grounded to Him. What I have seen is that so many of these false foundations have been built that many believers’ are built upon something other than the direct foundation of Christ. Now then we must break up what they have percieved as their foundation to expose the true foundation so that they can begin to build again.

For instance, there are some who hold that tithing is foundational to salvation. This of course is error, but it has become so ingrained in the fabric of thier theology that the removal of this error nearly shipwrecks their faith. It is like this with so many errors. Oh how this is a day of Nehemiah’s and Ezra’s, and how faithful we must be to rebuild upon the one true foundation whichch as you have said so well, is Christ!

]]> By: Robert Hammond http://douglasweaver.net/2009/11/the-apostolic-grace-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-116 Robert Hammond Sat, 14 Nov 2009 04:00:41 +0000 http://douglasweaver.net/?p=626#comment-116 I think it is important to remember the following verse. Verse 11 says in the NASB "For no man can lay a foundation other than the ONE which IS laid, which is Jesus Christ." Emphasis mine on the words "ONE" & "IS." There is only ONE foundation and it IS laid!! And verse 12 so beautifully says "Now if any man builds on THE foundation..." There is only one foundation to do building upon. This one foundation has already been laid. Another will NOT be laid. Matt. 16:18. It is of extreme importance to realize that the foundation is unique, but the building may differ. Different builders & different materials, etc. The emphasis that Paul is trying to bear out is not the foundation (in his mind, this is already established), but it is the building. We need to be careful to recognize this truth. Anyone today with an apostolic grace is only building upon the one foundation already laid. As a builder I can attest to this truth: I can build over 1,000 different types of buildings on the SAME foundation. I will just change the layout, or the exterior, or the roofline, or I can make it a 2-story if I so choose. But the foundation will always remain the same. There is no digging up the foundation once it is poured, sealed, and buried. Jesus poured Himself out, sealed everything in His blood, and was buried. One foundation ~ many buildings. If there are any improper foundations, it is only because we are trying to lay "another" foundation. Other translations say "other foundations CANNOT be laid..." Now individually we may have a weak foundation within. We see this truth outwardly and inwardly. But the foundation of the Church corporate is an established fact that cannot be added to or taken away from. I am not saying there are not many builders (apostolic graces) but I am saying that the ONE foundation has been (past-tense) laid. I would submit that prayerful meditation of Ephesians 2:20, Isaiah 28:16 would establish this point. Again I emphasize that it is not a matter of improper or even poor foundations (the foundation is perfect and flawless) but it is the many concepts, ideas, blueprints, and buildings that are flawed and wrong. I think it is important to remember the following verse. Verse 11 says in the NASB “For no man can lay a foundation other than the ONE which IS laid, which is Jesus Christ.” Emphasis mine on the words “ONE” & “IS.” There is only ONE foundation and it IS laid!! And verse 12 so beautifully says “Now if any man builds on THE foundation…” There is only one foundation to do building upon. This one foundation has already been laid. Another will NOT be laid. Matt. 16:18. It is of extreme importance to realize that the foundation is unique, but the building may differ. Different builders & different materials, etc. The emphasis that Paul is trying to bear out is not the foundation (in his mind, this is already established), but it is the building. We need to be careful to recognize this truth. Anyone today with an apostolic grace is only building upon the one foundation already laid. As a builder I can attest to this truth: I can build over 1,000 different types of buildings on the SAME foundation. I will just change the layout, or the exterior, or the roofline, or I can make it a 2-story if I so choose. But the foundation will always remain the same. There is no digging up the foundation once it is poured, sealed, and buried. Jesus poured Himself out, sealed everything in His blood, and was buried. One foundation ~ many buildings. If there are any improper foundations, it is only because we are trying to lay “another” foundation. Other translations say “other foundations CANNOT be laid…” Now individually we may have a weak foundation within. We see this truth outwardly and inwardly. But the foundation of the Church corporate is an established fact that cannot be added to or taken away from. I am not saying there are not many builders (apostolic graces) but I am saying that the ONE foundation has been (past-tense) laid. I would submit that prayerful meditation of Ephesians 2:20, Isaiah 28:16 would establish this point. Again I emphasize that it is not a matter of improper or even poor foundations (the foundation is perfect and flawless) but it is the many concepts, ideas, blueprints, and buildings that are flawed and wrong.

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