Regarding the Christian Religion: Part Two

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Back in April I wrote a post referencing an article by Chip Brogden titled Regarding the Christian Religion. Therein I asked the question, “How do we interface with those still trapped in Christian religion?” and stated I would express my position in a later post. So, here it is.

First, I believe it is essential to recognize that most of us out-of-the-camp types were at one point deeply immersed in the Christian religion. By grace we were lead out as we sought the Lord for a greater revelation of Christ – but from Babylon we came nonetheless. I believe the tendancy towards religion is intrinsically bound up in the human heart and has been since Adam and Eve attempted to hid their nakedness. It is only by the washing of the water of the Word that our minds are renewed to see that we are accepted in Christ because of His sacrifice and no longer need to make coverings for our nakedness. Indeed, we have been clothed with Christ and are no longer naked before God.

I also think it important to recognize that any position, regardless of how “present-truth” it may be, is subject to becoming Babylon-ized. For even though we have seen more of Christ and His purpose in the earth – our sight still falls far short of His glory. So then we must remain a people of pursuit, like Abraham, living in tents, continually pursuing that city whose builder and maker is God.

I agree with Mark, that a time is coming and now is when a strong prophetic declaration of Exodus is sweeping the earth. Those who have ears to hear have but one response…”Come out of her My people.” Most believers have seen and experienced the futility of “church.” But bantering over the inadequacies of the Christian religion is equally as futile. The rehearsal of past hurts and offences is not the way forward. We must be faithful to build according to the pattern we have seen and walk in love towards those who would speak against us. In the end, the Lord is our defense. I do see a day approaching wherein a bold prophetic and apostolic voice speaks back into Babylon, but I think that time is still to come.

So then what of those still in Babylon? What is our position towards them? I am struck by the parable of the wineskins and the wine. Notice what Luke brings out.

And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the new wine will burst the skins and it will be spilled out, and the skins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into fresh wineskins. And no one, after drinking old {wine} wishes for new; for he says, ‘The old is good {enough.}’ Luke 5:37-39

This passage is quite instructive. Here are a few points in brief for your consideration.

  1. Jesus is using common sense to make His point. For these people it was quite obvious that no one would put new wine in an old wineskin. That should be obvious to us as well.
  2. Jesus is concerned primarily for the wine, but secondarily for the skin. So then, for whatever reason, he does not want the old skin to be ruined. Maybe it is useful for those who are content to drink the old. Indeed, once that wine is fully drunk the skin becomes useless.
  3. New wine = Fresh wineskins – Enough said!
  4. See how strong a pull the taste of the hold has in that no one wishes for the new. (It should be noted that some manuscripts contain a word that suggests no one “immediately” desires the new.)

I believe Babylon is a position of the heart that we can find ourselves in regardless of the form we inhabit. And though the outworking of Babylon is manifest in old forms and traditions that have rendered the Word ineffective, we must continually guard against an internal Babylonian position so as not to rebuild that which the Lord has destroyed.

There is much to say regardig the Christian religion, but this will have to suffice for now. Perhaps part three will be forthcoming.

2 Responses to “Regarding the Christian Religion: Part Two”

  1. November 13th, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    We must realize that Babylon means confusion AND division. Please notice in Gen. 11:9 that the Lord “confused” and the Lord “scattered” or divided them. The Lord has done this, not satan. Jer.51:9 says “we tried to heal Babylon, but she would not be healed. Therefore forsake her each one.” This is a very poignant statement. No matter what we do or say, Babylon will NOT be healed. She remains to the end of time (Rev. 18:1-4 & please compare verse 2 with Matt. 13:31-32). Everything the Lord did was “outside the camp” and outside of religion. There were more Jews in Babylon when Jesus came then there was in all of Israel. Why didn’t the Lord go to Babylon instead? He could of reached more people there. He came to Jerusalem (foundation of peace) because it was here that the promise was made to Abraham. And also the Word says that the majority of Jews did NOT want to leave Babylon after the captivity. They had made homes, lives, businesses, families. They had too much invested in the system at this time. Even though God had told them to COME OUT of Babylon; they chose to stay. The Old Testament is the figure (Rom. 15:4, 1st Cor. 10:6&11, and Heb. 8:5) whereas the New Testament is the reality of that which we have read. I think Doug’s statement, “I believe Babylon is a position of the heart that we can find ourselves in regardless of the form we inhabit” is SO true. Babylon’s seed is to sow division, or confusion, or disunity among brethren. It is the seedbed of “opinions.” Division and confusion breed “opinions.” Let us guard against these with a pure heart. Oneness has no opinions, it only has deference and submission. The spirit of Babylon is stronger than we think; even within us. Doug’s other comment about guarding against an internal Babylonian position really ministered to me down deep!! Let us see this truth. If it’s not ONENESS, then it is BABYLONIAN to the core. Please see Psalm 133 again with emphasis on the oil that ran down Aaron’s beard onto his garments. The beard is on the head (Christ is the head) and the garments are on the body (we are the body) and the dew (Prov. 19:12, Micah 5:7) of Hermon (the mount of transfiguration) came down on the mountains (His real Churches) of Zion (THE Church). It is here He commanded the blessing!! Not in Babylon (the deceived/deluded church) but on Zion (the Lord’s true overcoming Church). Hallelujah and Amen!

  2. John Stolwyk
    December 7th, 2009 at 1:14 am

    I believe the ten­dancy towards reli­gion is intrin­si­cally bound up in the human heart and has been since Adam and Eve attempted to hid their naked­ness.

    I think that is it in a nutshell. Religious Systems are just manifestations of the heart of man trying to climb up to God by the towers they build. This is through a law-based mentality.

    If we do not preach the gospel of our completeness in Christ the yoke of bondage from the law cannot be broken and man will continue to try to add to Christ’s work.

    Religious systems are a gathering of like minded people that agree on the part that they want to add to Christ. Since they do not find their acceptance and completeness in Christ they look elsewhere and that can be true for anyone of us.

    We can not find our identity in anything but our completeness in Christ. Not the car we drive, the house we live in, the ministries we are trying to build or the “church” we attend. These are all deceptions and lies we are prone to when we move away from Him who is our life.

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